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Does anyone else periodically get burned out on tank maintenance?

It's just a Netlea Prefilter (Large G2 size), with a lily pipe outflow for hooking the return hose on to the rim of my tank, and and inflow is just an open 5/8" vinyl tubing into the prefilter. I connect tubing from the prefilter to an Oase Optimax inline pump.
My setup above has it's pros and cons. The cons are; 1. The inline strainer is smaller than I would like, and 2. There's not a good way to control the suction power of the diaphragm pump. Putting a valve on the pump output doesn't work very well. I imagine you can dial the optimax pump down a bit to get the suction right where you want it. On the other hand, the diaphragm pump self primes. I assume you have to manually prime your setup each time? If doing that isn't too much trouble, I'd definitely consider your setup before mine for substrate vacuuming.
 
I recreated Rocco's setup and love it. Whenever I decide to do a really deep gravel vacuum session, I just disconnect the lilly pipe that normally feeds into the prefilter and connect my gravel vacuum hose in place of it. By using quick disconnects, there is no need to reprime the system. @JayP , as for controlling the suction, I just dial down my Jebao pump to its lowest speed and crimp the gravel vacuum hose with my hand to control the flow just as if I were using a traditional siphon. It really is a great tool. Thanks @Naturescapes_Rocco for the idea!
 
I recreated Rocco's setup and love it. Whenever I decide to do a really deep gravel vacuum session, I just disconnect the lilly pipe that normally feeds into the prefilter and connect my gravel vacuum hose in place of it. By using quick disconnects, there is no need to reprime the system. @JayP , as for controlling the suction, I just dial down my Jebao pump to its lowest speed and crimp the gravel vacuum hose with my hand to control the flow just as if I were using a traditional siphon. It really is a great tool. Thanks @Naturescapes_Rocco for the idea!
OK, maybe I misunderstood Rocco's post. I thought he was describing a stand-alone prefilter and pump just for the vacuuming. It sounds like you're using the prefilter and pump that's always running on your tank and just rerouting the filter input between the tank intake and a vacuum hose. I'm planning to move to the "Rocco" prefilter setups on upcoming tanks, so that sounds like a good plan.
 
Has anyone seen this cool little vacuum on Etsy

As a matter of fact I've tried it 🙁

I will say the build quality of the 3D printed shell is spot on and his customer service is outstanding, the guy is great to work with.

However it is way too strong for aquasoil. Instantaneously jams it's nozzle full of bits and tears through the internal filter sponge, no matter how careful you are. At least it was a no-hassle return.
 
As a matter of fact I've tried it 🙁

I will say the customer service is outstanding, the guy is great to work with.

However it is way too strong for aquasoil.

Instantaneously jams it's nozzle full of bits and tears through the internal filter sponge, no matter how careful you are. At least it was a no hassle return.
Do you think it needed a stronger/coarser sponge?
 
Do you think it needed a stronger/coarser sponge?

So it has two sponges. One very thin cover glued over the internal opening of the nozzle, to keep fish and shrimp out, and then the big coarse 50 PPI internal sponge to hold the gunk as the water goes back into the tank.

It would be a great tool if the internal pump was maybe a quarter of the strength it is. I'm sure it's outstanding for vacuuming goldfish gravel 🙁

Sure it could work if you kept it completely separate from the substrate and just poofed dirt up with a turkey baster, but then what's the point of a nozzle. And it's still fat and clunky to work around hardscape with, so the first time you bump something and accidentally touch the aqua soil you've jammed it full of soil.

I really wanted it to work, and I talked with the guy about trying a weaker pump but he wasn't into it.
 
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Eh maintenance is is kinda easy for me. Just a hose attached to a utility pump and I run the hose into the backyard and water the trees and outdoor potted plants :ROFLMAO:. Filling process is just a diy pvc spray bar attached to the garden house.

Finding a reason to stay in the hobby is harder for me tbh. Hardscape prices and finding aquascape layout inspirations are the main issues.
 
I still do gravel cleans 😵‍💫 yes im a rare breed on all my tanks no aquasoil or ada amazonia here. I use 75' python to drain and refill with spigot outside. There's no buckets for me that got old long ago. I have small 1" and larger gravel clean heads to hover clean sand and debris/leaf litter in tight spots. If I didn't have that option I'd do the 30-55g trash can on wheels and pump like above with jayp brilliant way to get it done nice and neat!
With my current 2 tanks being 60g and 2 tupperwares both 20g each water changes take less than hour to get done. Not bad for upkeep and only having to do 1 day a week keeps its pretty manageable. I do 50% on all tanks period ferts or not. Id say I spend more time probably 5 hours a week trimming/replanting and looking at plants with a magnifying glass than any actual upkeep. Normal people think Oh its a fish tank thats so easy! change that carbon filter and do a water change every few months. You just keep topping that water off father fish lol yeahhh right!
 
Eh maintenance is is kinda easy for me. Just a hose attached to a utility pump and I run the hose into the backyard and water the trees and outdoor potted plants :ROFLMAO:. Filling process is just a diy pvc spray bar attached to the garden house.

Finding a reason to stay in the hobby is harder for me tbh. Hardscape prices and finding aquascape layout inspirations are the main issues.
I also water the plants in yard with water free frets and water for plants they all boom!
 
...and then Green Aqua released this Maybach solution this week that keeps maintenance to a minimum (had to wait for the video to be public before I posted it). Of course, this requires a sump, and RO. Not a complete solution, but everyone here is pretty creative and crafty. I couldn't do it here with my tap water, but I bet someone here could come up with an auto remineralizing solution to add to this:
 
I assume you have to manually prime your setup each time? If doing that isn't too much trouble, I'd definitely consider your setup before mine for substrate vacuuming.
Yeah, and it's super easy! Since the prefilters are clear you can see what's going on. If you're using quick release valves, you can also have a spare lily pipe intake (which you'll probably have on hand, since the partnered lily pipe outflow is part of this "water vacuum" already). Set up the intake lily pipe tubing, give the outflow a quick inhale, and get water flowing into the prefilter. Easy to prime, just switch out your intake tubing with your desired "vacuum hose" with another quick disconnect, and you're ready to vacuum with recirculating water for hours!

I recreated Rocco's setup and love it. Whenever I decide to do a really deep gravel vacuum session, I just disconnect the lilly pipe that normally feeds into the prefilter and connect my gravel vacuum hose in place of it. By using quick disconnects, there is no need to reprime the system. @JayP , as for controlling the suction, I just dial down my Jebao pump to its lowest speed and crimp the gravel vacuum hose with my hand to control the flow just as if I were using a traditional siphon. It really is a great tool. Thanks @Naturescapes_Rocco for the idea!
I had also done this before! It's super simple to just use a quick-disconnect on a new length of tubing into your existing prefilter. The only reason I don't do this anymore, is to keep the actual filter-based prefilter sponge cleaner of detritus, and have a dedicated gross vacuum prefilter sponge. But I'm glad other people are exploring the potential of these prefilters, for both cleaning and filtration. They have awesome opportunity and tons of flexibility!
 
Love the closed loop tank cleaning concept. I get great satisfaction from vacuuming but I find that it makes my WC’s inconsistent. Has anyone seen this cool little vacuum on Etsy? https://www.etsy.com/shop/UnderwaterGardens
This is cool, I might have to build something like this with a lower flow as per @Koan notes.
...and then Green Aqua released this Maybach solution this week that keeps maintenance to a minimum (had to wait for the video to be public before I posted it). Of course, this requires a sump, and RO. Not a complete solution, but everyone here is pretty creative and crafty. I couldn't do it here with my tap water, but I bet someone here could come up with an auto remineralizing solution to add to this.
Sounds like what I'm building :D, was a good watch though - thanks for the share.
 
Think dennis once said all the people who got into high tech side of the hobby too early without experiencing the low tech side first, pretty much all quit the hobby after a while.

They grew the tank they wanted and realized that amount of work stopped being worth it as their interest went down for a few months. Then quit the hobby.

You can also see why people like LRB aquatics keep hundreds of tanks with no filter etc. no implied workload.

I personally only use sponge filters despite having multiple expensive canister filters in the past. The simpler the set up, the easier it is to relax your mind on it long term.
 

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