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Substrate cleaning dilemma

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I'm in a bit of a quandary. I have a 4 yr old low tech 20g tank. Despite being an experienced aquarist of decades it was my first successful planted tank.

It has inert 2mm gravel (with small amounts of aquasoil underneath, injected in boluses, instead of root tabs) and amazingly most plants have done really well for most of its life. It has also housed a variety of shrimp and small fish, who have also generally thrived. It has been a lovely planted mixed display tank.
Here's a pic of it in its past glory
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Sadly over the last 6-12 months some of the plants (definatley not all) have got harder and harder to keep going nicely and many of the shrimp have also been getting cloudy and passing away. GH/KH have remained rock solid stable. In fact nothing measureable has really deviated.
A real measure for me has been some Myriophyllum mattogrossense, which has lived in this tank for its entire life, growing superbly like a weed providing a lovely background stem jungle. However, recently even it is struggling, with dull colour, weak, thin stems and slow growth. I also used to have lovely Crypt wendtii, but the last couple now are simply holding on for dear life it seems. Growth is VERY slow.

Here's are recent pics
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Its not a disaster. The java fern and buces are doing well but the crypts and Myriophyllum are hanging on (the pics don't really show the colour differences compared to earlier generations). However, the clearest indication for the Myriophyllum for me are the delicate, thin stems, which are definately a new thing.

The only things that have actually changed over the last year or so have been firstly (and possibly obviously) that the tank has aged another year, and secondly that I have converted to a new fertilizing schedule. Literally nothing else has changed.

My thoughts are ..................

1/ Maybe the build up of mulm and detritus in the substrate has become so much that it is increasing toxic dissolved organic compound levels, increasing the growth of nasty suspended bacteria, with negetive results on delicate shrimp (these are mainly softwater Caridina that are suffering. The Neos seem to battle on regardless). Maybe this same detritus build up is also affecting root growth and function in the rooted plants. Note - it certainly seems that my rhizome plants are still growing really well. Does this substrate and tank just need a jolly good clean out ? if I take all the substrate out and rinse it with clean dechlorinated water I should hopefully not completely wipe out the substrate microflora.
THis pic doesn't show the build up in the deeper substrate well but it does show that the substrate surface is really nice and clean. No detritus at all.
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2/ Maybe this tank just doesn't get on well with the new fert schedule. This would be very surprising to me, as I use exactly the same chemicals and ratios (scaled up) for my large CO2-injected tank (again similar inert substrate with aquasoil injection) and the plant growth for virtually all in that tank is outstanding.

In this low tech tank I use weekly doses of 1.1g KNO3, 1.1g K2SO4 and 0.22g KHPO4. My micros are provided by a weekly dose of 0.21g of Solufeed Sodium-free TEC, which claims this composition ....

ElementSoluble in water (%)Chelated by EDTA (% min)
Boron(as polyborate)0.92 N/a
Copper(as CuNH4EDTA)0.230.23
Iron(as FeKEDTA)8.48.4
Manganese(as Mn2KEDTA)2.002.00
Molybdemum(as molybdate)0.15N/a
Zinc(as Zn2KEDTA)1.161.16

I change around 30% of the water weekly. Water is RO, remineralized to 6 dGH, zero dKH . COnsumer nitrate test kit tested levels in the tank seem fairly stable around 10-15 ppm.
I see no obvious signs of copper toxicity in the shrimp (any variety of movement disorder or spasms).

It will be a royal PITA to wash out the substrate and I don't want to do it unless its necessary.

If anyone had some words of wisdom I would be very grateful. I would love this tank to start thriving again
 
Good afternoon! It is very possible you are right on both, but my gut is telling me it's time for a deep vacuum. I wouldn't pull out the sub and rinse. Just go all the way to the bottom with a python. If it's very dirty, that's most likely the issue. Follow the vacuum with serval days of large water changes.

If I recall correctly, @GreggZ had a similar thing going on and did a deep clean and after he saw improvement.
 
OK, many thanks to all. I just needed the push, and I must say I'm very pleased not to have to remove and rinse all the substrate. Your advice seems unanimous so it seems I would be a fool not to follow it.

I have already prepared around 250 litres of warmed dechlorinated remineralized RO over the weekend, so throughout the day today I will deep vac all sections of the substrate. I've already just done one quarter (along with a 30% WC) and got a lot of cr@p up out of there. It was very effective. The tank is obviously very mature with plenty of plants and has three double sponge filters along the back so I'm pretty confident it will cope with any potential ammonia/nitrite release. I'll keep an eye on it though. The GH/KH of the incoming water is a spot on match for the tank so the shrimp should cope admirably with all these water changes during the day.

It also will provide the day's amusement for the fish and shrimp, who all want to see what going on on of course.

However, I'll be glad when its over and then it will be time to just be patient and see if anything has changed. Here's hoping.
 
Its all done, no-one seems any the worse for it and there's certainly a lot less organic matter down in that substrate.
The Java Fern got a well deserved chop as well. It was getting a little large for the tank really. Buce's also separated and "multipled". I'm not sure whether the Lileopsis is going to come good, but I will persevere with it. It was looking a little ropey but I've replanted a few runners and it'll either spread everywhere or it won't.
The shrimp are already enjoying some Snowflake.

Now for the waiting bit.

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Was it nasty down there?

Not as bad as I thought, but I certainly got plenty out. TBH, for 50 years I have pretty much always kept fish tanks and gravel vac'd the substrate weekly so the change to planted tanks 4 yrs ago has included a whole new way of thinking and this is the first planted tank substrate I have had since then that I would consider getting "old" at all - so I haven't got a whole lot to compare it to.
 
The GH/KH of the incoming water is a spot on match for the tank so the shrimp should cope admirably

I've had some pretty bad bacterial breakouts with shrimps after a deep vacuum 🙁🙁

I have had good results with microwaving and steeping some Catappa leaves, and dripping in the resulting "tannin tea" along with adding the leaves to the tank, to get them over the adjustment 💯
 
I've had some pretty bad bacterial breakouts with shrimps after a deep vacuum 🙁🙁

I have had good results with microwaving and steeping some Catappa leaves, and dripping in the resulting "tannin tea" along with adding the leaves to the tank, to get them over the adjustment 💯

I was actually amazed at the lack of spread of the debris into the water column during the deep clean procedure. The gravel vac simply seemed to suck up the gunk straight up the tube and away. My gravel grain size is around 2mm which may have helped with this. It definately gave me confidence to do the whole tank in a day. THe shrimp have been very happy since then, so I think I, at least, have done no harm.

THere is a fair amount of leaf litter in there all the time anyway, which may have been protective. Who knows.
 

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